Jimmy Clausen, driving someone around with a load of booze?
Nothing like getting the season off to a strong start.
UPDATE: Since I was so kindly called a mongoloid in the comments for my haste in simply pointing to a news story, I’ve happily made the correction naming the correct Clausen wunderkind of the day. I guess I’m still just stuck on the last one we had here. Oops. Sorry for being an actual human being that made a mistake.
I really don’t like Weis being an apologist for this guy, even if it was a mistake. Weis’s attitude represents the kind of thinking that led to Vick ruining his career and giving the NFL a black eye. I think Weis should put his boot up this kid’s ass now when it is something relatively innocent instead making apologies for him.
Here’s how I heard the story:
The law states that it is illegal for a minor to transport alcohol on a state highway. The liquor store where this occurred happens to be located right on the corner of a street and a state highway (for those of you familiar with the area, it was the Belmont next to the Backer). Apparently the cops (probably seeing that it was Jimmy Clausen and knowing he was underage) waited for him to pull onto the highway before pulling him over. So it sounds like yes, he was ignorant of the law and broke it, but that the cops also weren’t just looking for minors attempting to get alcohol (otherwise why wouldn’t they have stopped him in the parking lot?).
Weis’s attitude represents the kind of thinking that led to Vick ruining his career and giving the NFL a black eye.
What an absurd comment. Weis seems to be able to differentiate between serious violations of student codes of conduct (See Hand) and situations of circumstance where the player’s committed minor technical infractions (See Jones, Clausen).
Also, I’m glad the SBPD have enough officers to sit in a parking lot to catch underage kids driving others in lawful possession of alcohol, as opposed to, say, keeping people from shooting students. A student may be in the hospital with a gunshot wound to the abdomen, but at least he won’t be violating technical alcohol transportation regulations!
I am convinced that lately South Bend has nothing better to do than create stupid new laws… and apparently randomly decide to enforce old ones. It’s disgusting.
Maybe its a stupid law, but its even stupider for someone in his position to put himself in a situation where he can get himself in trouble. Oh well, it could have been worse.
Davie,
Fair point in some regard–football players, especially last year’s top recruit, are certainly in the spotlight and shouldn’t be doing anything that borders on lawlessness. However, this is a pretty strange way to get in trouble considering the person who bought the alcohol and brought it with him was over 21.
Either way, there is a lot of hyperbole surrounding this story that is so minor it hardly borders on news–people already calling Clausen a bust before he ever suited up for a college game, or the comments above.
What crap! As much as I’d like to blame the SBPD for this one (because those ass monkeys are the worst cops I’ve ever had the displeasure of dealing with), it sounds like this is a stupid state law that doesn’t appear to serve the public good in any way. As much as I get a little tickle of enjoyment when ND footballers mess up, I can’t help but shake my head at this one. What kind of pissant legislature makes a law like that? Stupid.
And since we’re supposed to poke fun at Jay to see if we can get his head to explode, um, when you said “Sorry for being an actual human being that made a mistake,” you created a grammatically awkward sentence. Assuming that by “human being,” you mean a person, then it should read “a human being WHO made a mistake.” A dog THAT. A cactus THAT. A deck of cards THAT. A person WHO.
That’s my number one grammar pet peeve but even I do it sometimes. Oh the shame!
Beckles, I don’t mind the dislike of Notre Dame (namely its football team and its players) as much when you are outright with it. Well done. This has turned into one of my favorite all-time threads.
A: It was the Indiana State Excise Police, not the SBPD.
B: Excise exists just for this purpose, and they are notorious for staking out Belmont. They weren’t “targetting” Clausen — they do this to underage students all the time.
C: Pictures are surfacing in random places on the internet of Clausen in some fairly compromising positions. Hopefully Weis will speak with him about it at some point before it blows up instead of continuously blowing his behavior off. I know everyone loves to hate Student Affairs, but they will be put in a royally shitty position if they end up having to discipline Clausen.
“Student Affairs,” which is actually called Reslife, certainly has sanctioned Clausen…if not then (because Excise for whatever reason did not report it to the school), certainly in the immediate future now that it has become public. I don’t see how this would put them in a “royally shitty” position, though–usually the punishment is something along the lines of 20 hours of community service.
Unless you’re referring to the photos. Please enlighten us more, if so.
As for the RPN example, I think citing to Kyle McAlarney might be more apt. There wasn’t a ton of rage over RPN’s situation for a few reasons: Because it wasn’t immediately known why he was suspended, because during his suspension his legal issues hadn’t been resolved, and because DUI is considered a serious crime against people/the public. I don’t remember the shit hitting the fan for that instance as it did for K-Mac’s suspension.
Honestly, though, I remain curious about your vague and thus-far-unsubstantiated claims about readily accessible images of Clausen on the internet. Would you e-mail me a link or something (your google skills are obviously superior to mine)? wobbly_h@hotmail.com
I read NDNation regularly. They nuke the board, so a search won’t be fruitful. But I think the vast majority supported RPN’s suspension, unlike K-Mac’s, where the split was closer to half.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:00:30 pm
Let he among us who is without sin cast the first stone on this one.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:26:19 pm
I really don’t like Weis being an apologist for this guy, even if it was a mistake. Weis’s attitude represents the kind of thinking that led to Vick ruining his career and giving the NFL a black eye. I think Weis should put his boot up this kid’s ass now when it is something relatively innocent instead making apologies for him.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:31:39 pm
Oh, the horror. Someone drove on a beer run. By the way, the current ND QB’s name is Jimmy. Rick is his brother, you mongoloid.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:33:48 pm
I’m with Wobbly. That’s a pretty stupid law, and comparisons to either Marcus or Michael Vick are absurd.
August 21st, 2007 at 8:34:27 pm
Here’s how I heard the story:
The law states that it is illegal for a minor to transport alcohol on a state highway. The liquor store where this occurred happens to be located right on the corner of a street and a state highway (for those of you familiar with the area, it was the Belmont next to the Backer). Apparently the cops (probably seeing that it was Jimmy Clausen and knowing he was underage) waited for him to pull onto the highway before pulling him over. So it sounds like yes, he was ignorant of the law and broke it, but that the cops also weren’t just looking for minors attempting to get alcohol (otherwise why wouldn’t they have stopped him in the parking lot?).
August 21st, 2007 at 8:51:29 pm
Weis’s attitude represents the kind of thinking that led to Vick ruining his career and giving the NFL a black eye.
What an absurd comment. Weis seems to be able to differentiate between serious violations of student codes of conduct (See Hand) and situations of circumstance where the player’s committed minor technical infractions (See Jones, Clausen).
Also, I’m glad the SBPD have enough officers to sit in a parking lot to catch underage kids driving others in lawful possession of alcohol, as opposed to, say, keeping people from shooting students. A student may be in the hospital with a gunshot wound to the abdomen, but at least he won’t be violating technical alcohol transportation regulations!
August 21st, 2007 at 10:05:49 pm
I am convinced that lately South Bend has nothing better to do than create stupid new laws… and apparently randomly decide to enforce old ones. It’s disgusting.
August 21st, 2007 at 10:27:35 pm
Maybe its a stupid law, but its even stupider for someone in his position to put himself in a situation where he can get himself in trouble. Oh well, it could have been worse.
August 21st, 2007 at 10:35:12 pm
Davie,
Fair point in some regard–football players, especially last year’s top recruit, are certainly in the spotlight and shouldn’t be doing anything that borders on lawlessness. However, this is a pretty strange way to get in trouble considering the person who bought the alcohol and brought it with him was over 21.
Either way, there is a lot of hyperbole surrounding this story that is so minor it hardly borders on news–people already calling Clausen a bust before he ever suited up for a college game, or the comments above.
August 21st, 2007 at 10:36:15 pm
J,
To your credit, you did spell the family’s name right
August 21st, 2007 at 11:37:37 pm
http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2007_08_01_archive.html#3642660298561130519
August 21st, 2007 at 11:45:10 pm
good thing hes not a bball player otherwise hed be suspended for the whole year.
August 22nd, 2007 at 12:09:28 am
What crap! As much as I’d like to blame the SBPD for this one (because those ass monkeys are the worst cops I’ve ever had the displeasure of dealing with), it sounds like this is a stupid state law that doesn’t appear to serve the public good in any way. As much as I get a little tickle of enjoyment when ND footballers mess up, I can’t help but shake my head at this one. What kind of pissant legislature makes a law like that? Stupid.
And since we’re supposed to poke fun at Jay to see if we can get his head to explode, um, when you said “Sorry for being an actual human being that made a mistake,” you created a grammatically awkward sentence. Assuming that by “human being,” you mean a person, then it should read “a human being WHO made a mistake.” A dog THAT. A cactus THAT. A deck of cards THAT. A person WHO.
That’s my number one grammar pet peeve but even I do it sometimes. Oh the shame!
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:03:49 am
Beckles, I don’t mind the dislike of Notre Dame (namely its football team and its players) as much when you are outright with it. Well done. This has turned into one of my favorite all-time threads.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:25:24 am
A: It was the Indiana State Excise Police, not the SBPD.
B: Excise exists just for this purpose, and they are notorious for staking out Belmont. They weren’t “targetting” Clausen — they do this to underage students all the time.
C: Pictures are surfacing in random places on the internet of Clausen in some fairly compromising positions. Hopefully Weis will speak with him about it at some point before it blows up instead of continuously blowing his behavior off. I know everyone loves to hate Student Affairs, but they will be put in a royally shitty position if they end up having to discipline Clausen.
August 22nd, 2007 at 1:48:09 pm
“Student Affairs,” which is actually called Reslife, certainly has sanctioned Clausen…if not then (because Excise for whatever reason did not report it to the school), certainly in the immediate future now that it has become public. I don’t see how this would put them in a “royally shitty” position, though–usually the punishment is something along the lines of 20 hours of community service.
Unless you’re referring to the photos. Please enlighten us more, if so.
August 22nd, 2007 at 3:00:50 pm
A quick perusal of Jimmy Clausen’s facebook page shows him kissing his girlfriend. On the lips.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:46:04 am
Wobbly H, you can certainly marshal some better Googling skills.
And by “royally shitty” I mean having the entire alumni community seething in anger over an activities suspension — remember Rashon Powers-Neal?
August 23rd, 2007 at 1:24:19 pm
Here we go, domerlaw. Pretty compromising photos of Clausen and his buddies on the Jersey shore:
http://user10337.websitewizard.com/images/guidos_small.jpg
As for the RPN example, I think citing to Kyle McAlarney might be more apt. There wasn’t a ton of rage over RPN’s situation for a few reasons: Because it wasn’t immediately known why he was suspended, because during his suspension his legal issues hadn’t been resolved, and because DUI is considered a serious crime against people/the public. I don’t remember the shit hitting the fan for that instance as it did for K-Mac’s suspension.
Honestly, though, I remain curious about your vague and thus-far-unsubstantiated claims about readily accessible images of Clausen on the internet. Would you e-mail me a link or something (your google skills are obviously superior to mine)? wobbly_h@hotmail.com
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:24:56 pm
Google Mail is down. When it’s back up, you’ll have something.
And I don’t know who you talk to, but NDNation.com was ablaze about the RPN situation.
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:25:43 pm
Is NDNation.com ever NOT ablaze?
August 23rd, 2007 at 4:39:54 pm
I read NDNation regularly. They nuke the board, so a search won’t be fruitful. But I think the vast majority supported RPN’s suspension, unlike K-Mac’s, where the split was closer to half.
August 24th, 2007 at 11:56:08 am
You never e-mailed me, so I can only assume that you are full of shit, which I knew from the beginning.