Meanwhile, contrary to previous reports, the Notre Dame-Michigan rivalry has been renewed for the next 25 years. Or, as The Rock puts it, “With this deal Kevin White has ensured that Notre Dame will have [at least] two top opponents [each season] until Chelsea Clinton battles Jenna Bush for the ‘32 presidency.” Heh.
On the one hand Quinn could be pissing off future teammates. On the other hand, the NFL is a business. Quinn won’t have a better time to negotiate than now, especially with a team as notoriously cheap as the Browns. Quinn’s agent knows that if Brady proves to be a bust, the Browns would have no problem throwing him under the bus, so might as well get that money now.
Unfortunately, even if Brady Quinn is the next coming of Joe Montana, playing for a team as f-d up as the Browns could ruin his career. Look at what it did to Bernie Kosar.
What a dumb move by quinn, holding out for more money in the most important contract that he’ll ever sign. He should just report to camp and take whatever they offer and be thankful that he is so lucky to be an nfl player. Who cares that if he gets injured or if he ends up a bust that this signing bonus will be the only money he likely makes in football the rest of his life, the important thing is to get to training camp on time!
Cleveland’s other problem is that it went from be a so-so team in a shitty division to being a so-so team in a great division. The Ravens and Bengals are going to be hard to stop this year. The jury is still out on the Steelers sans Cowher, but I imagine they will be tough as well.
The posibility that we won’t perform, but would have had he reported on time is a small fairway [probably larger for QB then any other position, but still small].
Based on this, it would seem to make sense to hold out for more $.
“The Browns have an awesome group of receivers and a solid RB.
They just have NO offensive line and a defense that is swiss.”
I don’t think this person watches Cleveland Browns football too much (Not that I could blame anyone who isn’t a die-hard fan). Saying they have awesome receivers is really pushing it. KWII is a great pass-catching TE. Of course he never shuts his damn mouth, but that is beside the point. WR’s???? Braylon Edwards –> Big mouth and he can’t catch a ball to save his life. Let me rephrase that. If the Browns are down 20 then in the 4th quarter BE will make a one-handed behind the back catch for an 80 yard TD. If the Browns are down 3 and need 5 yards to get a crucial first down late in the 4th?? He could be by himself and have the ball hit him right in the hands and he’d drop it every time. Joe Jurivecious??? Ehh…slow and didn’t really do too much last year. Josh Cribbs??? Great return man, nothing else. Travis Wilson??? Waste of a pick in the 3rd round.
With the additions of Steinbach and Thomas to the left side of the line and the shifting of Schaeffer back to the right side of the line, I feel way more confident about the OL than I do about the WRs and dare I say this may even become a decent running team. Probably not, but I could hope.
Is Bentley healthy? If so, the Browns should have a decent offensive line. I agree the WRs are overrated — Braylon Edwards especially — although I do think Tim Carter is kind of underrated. Peter King thinks Jamal Lewis will be motivated and a beast this fall, so I expect good things from him, and I loved Jerome Harrison at WSU — I’d love for him to have an impact.
Brady Quinn and JaMarcus Russell are fools for not practicing. It’s fine to hold out on signing a contract until you get better terms, but sacrificing preseason practice time is dumb. Just sit out the preseason games and threaten to sit out regular season games, but don’t hurt your own development by missing practice.
JaMarcus Russell is stupid because you know Al Davis will throw him in there with no prep and Russell’s entire career will be tainted by it. Quinn may not go in at all this season, or at least not until late in the season.
“What a dumb move by quinn, holding out for more money in the most important contract that he’ll ever sign.”
Sounds like you are making the case for holding out. That’s like saying, this is the most important task that you will ever perform. You should do it hastily and shoddily and be stuck with its results for years.
I don’t like that he is holding out, but unfortunately he needs to get the best contract that he can now. Just saying that he should play for 5 years and see where he stands is not a good decision. If he performs well, the holdout will not hinder his career.
Ah, color me stupid. There were other comments in the thread that were irrationally anti-Quinn (e.g. he is a p***y for holding out, as if it implicates his manhood, or his only experience is playing against Navy’s D). On re-reading that one, pretty clearly sarcastic.
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July 31st, 2007 at 8:39:58 am
What a dumb move by Brady.
Frye is obviously going to be the atrter. Quinn should just take the millions of dollars and learn from him. What a pu$$y.
July 31st, 2007 at 9:36:38 am
On the one hand Quinn could be pissing off future teammates. On the other hand, the NFL is a business. Quinn won’t have a better time to negotiate than now, especially with a team as notoriously cheap as the Browns. Quinn’s agent knows that if Brady proves to be a bust, the Browns would have no problem throwing him under the bus, so might as well get that money now.
July 31st, 2007 at 9:45:02 am
a&a -
Good point. Might as well get paid.
July 31st, 2007 at 10:07:02 am
Unfortunately, even if Brady Quinn is the next coming of Joe Montana, playing for a team as f-d up as the Browns could ruin his career. Look at what it did to Bernie Kosar.
July 31st, 2007 at 10:21:31 am
The Browns have an awesome group of receivers and a solid RB.
They just have NO offensive line and a defense that is swiss.
I can’t wait for college football.
July 31st, 2007 at 12:22:24 pm
Quinn is going to have to take his lumps this time around, get his #22 money and report.
QBs who prove themselves–the Bradys and Mannings–get the big cash in the second contract anyway.
July 31st, 2007 at 1:42:19 pm
What a dumb move by quinn, holding out for more money in the most important contract that he’ll ever sign. He should just report to camp and take whatever they offer and be thankful that he is so lucky to be an nfl player. Who cares that if he gets injured or if he ends up a bust that this signing bonus will be the only money he likely makes in football the rest of his life, the important thing is to get to training camp on time!
July 31st, 2007 at 1:42:54 pm
Cleveland’s other problem is that it went from be a so-so team in a shitty division to being a so-so team in a great division. The Ravens and Bengals are going to be hard to stop this year. The jury is still out on the Steelers sans Cowher, but I imagine they will be tough as well.
July 31st, 2007 at 2:09:54 pm
I heard Atlanta is looking for a QB.
July 31st, 2007 at 3:15:09 pm
If he performs, the holdout will be forogtten.
If he doesn’t, his career is a downward spiral.
The posibility that we won’t perform, but would have had he reported on time is a small fairway [probably larger for QB then any other position, but still small].
Based on this, it would seem to make sense to hold out for more $.
July 31st, 2007 at 3:55:25 pm
They just have NO offensive line and a defense that is swiss.
Well then Brady should feel right at home. ;)
July 31st, 2007 at 5:22:16 pm
“The Browns have an awesome group of receivers and a solid RB.
They just have NO offensive line and a defense that is swiss.”
I don’t think this person watches Cleveland Browns football too much (Not that I could blame anyone who isn’t a die-hard fan). Saying they have awesome receivers is really pushing it. KWII is a great pass-catching TE. Of course he never shuts his damn mouth, but that is beside the point. WR’s???? Braylon Edwards –> Big mouth and he can’t catch a ball to save his life. Let me rephrase that. If the Browns are down 20 then in the 4th quarter BE will make a one-handed behind the back catch for an 80 yard TD. If the Browns are down 3 and need 5 yards to get a crucial first down late in the 4th?? He could be by himself and have the ball hit him right in the hands and he’d drop it every time. Joe Jurivecious??? Ehh…slow and didn’t really do too much last year. Josh Cribbs??? Great return man, nothing else. Travis Wilson??? Waste of a pick in the 3rd round.
With the additions of Steinbach and Thomas to the left side of the line and the shifting of Schaeffer back to the right side of the line, I feel way more confident about the OL than I do about the WRs and dare I say this may even become a decent running team. Probably not, but I could hope.
July 31st, 2007 at 6:24:44 pm
“They just have NO offensive line and a defense that is swiss.
Well then Brady should feel right at home. ;)”
…Assuming the Baltimore Ravens have the same pass rush as NAVY…
July 31st, 2007 at 9:03:15 pm
Is Bentley healthy? If so, the Browns should have a decent offensive line. I agree the WRs are overrated — Braylon Edwards especially — although I do think Tim Carter is kind of underrated. Peter King thinks Jamal Lewis will be motivated and a beast this fall, so I expect good things from him, and I loved Jerome Harrison at WSU — I’d love for him to have an impact.
Brady Quinn and JaMarcus Russell are fools for not practicing. It’s fine to hold out on signing a contract until you get better terms, but sacrificing preseason practice time is dumb. Just sit out the preseason games and threaten to sit out regular season games, but don’t hurt your own development by missing practice.
July 31st, 2007 at 10:00:58 pm
JaMarcus Russell is stupid because you know Al Davis will throw him in there with no prep and Russell’s entire career will be tainted by it. Quinn may not go in at all this season, or at least not until late in the season.
July 31st, 2007 at 10:36:11 pm
Andrew -
The Browns receiving corp is far from overrated. They haven’t had a good quarterback and they still put up decent numbers every year.
If Edwards stays healthy he can stretch the hell out of the field.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:12:26 pm
“What a dumb move by quinn, holding out for more money in the most important contract that he’ll ever sign.”
Sounds like you are making the case for holding out. That’s like saying, this is the most important task that you will ever perform. You should do it hastily and shoddily and be stuck with its results for years.
I don’t like that he is holding out, but unfortunately he needs to get the best contract that he can now. Just saying that he should play for 5 years and see where he stands is not a good decision. If he performs well, the holdout will not hinder his career.
August 1st, 2007 at 3:15:00 pm
Anonymous, I’m fairly certain anon @ 1:42 was being sarcastic, and is indeed making the case for holding out.
August 1st, 2007 at 9:53:16 pm
Ah, color me stupid. There were other comments in the thread that were irrationally anti-Quinn (e.g. he is a p***y for holding out, as if it implicates his manhood, or his only experience is playing against Navy’s D). On re-reading that one, pretty clearly sarcastic.