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I’m a law-school graduate
Posted by on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 9:19 pm

Needless to say, I have lots and lots of pictures (and a few videos) from today’s festivities. But I’m completely exhausted from a very long day of pomp and circumstance, and we’re planning to leave for Knoxville at like 7:30 AM tomorrow, so I need to get some sleep. I’ll try to organize my graduation photos — as well as my still-unblogged 3L Week and tornado pics — and post them from the car tomorrow, or from Knoxville on Tuesday. No guarantees, but I’ll do my best. In the mean time, here’s a cute shot to tide you over:

Hee hee.

P.S. One more:




32 Comments on “I’m a law-school graduate”

  1. DUP Says:

    Congratulations!!

  2. Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » Congratulations Brendan Says:

    […] It’s been 14 years since I graduated law school, and I still remember how tough those three years were. So, congratulations are in order to fellow blogger and Notre Dame Law School graduate Brendan Loy. […]

  3. Southern Girl Says:

    Congratulations! And welcome in advance to the great state of Tennessee! ;)

  4. Invernessie Says:

    Best wishes! Great Job! I look forward to hearing your new adventures in Knoxville!

  5. Jay Johnson Says:

    You guys be careful, and let us know when you get here!

  6. anonymous Says:

    Since when is “law school” hyphenated?

  7. Kristin Says:

    Congratulations from Montana! It took some real dedication on my part loading your pictures on my parents’ dial-up connection. I think it took all of 10 minutes. :) Anyway, I’m very happy for you, and good luck on the move!

  8. Brendan Loy Says:

    Since when is “law school” hyphenated?

    Generally, when a compound noun is used as an adjective (i.e., here, where “law school” modifies “graduate”), it should be hyphenated. So of course I would never say, “I graduated from law-school,” but when I’m saying “I’m a law-school graduate,” it’s correct. (Otherwise, it wouldn’t be clear whether “law” modifies “school graduate” or whether “law school” modifies “graduate.”)

    Anyway, thanks for the congrats, everybody. :)

  9. Brendan Loy Says:

    P.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_compound#Hyphenated_compound_adjectives

  10. Timugen Says:

    Congrats Brendan and the best of luck to you.

  11. Ain't no answer Says:

    Generally, when a compound noun is used as an adjective (i.e., here, where “law school” modifies “graduate”), it should be hyphenated.

    Misleading . . .

    when I’m saying “I’m a law-school graduate,” it’s correct.

    . . . wrong.

    You don’t add a dash to “law school” when it modifies graduate. To do so demonstrates ignorance as to how compound adjectives are used in the English language. There is nothing ambiguous about what “law” is modifying in “law school graduate.” You try to explain how the dash clarifies something, but “law” modifying “school graduate” makes no sense. A person is not typically described in any context as “law”; “legal” maybe (e.g., “legal expert”), but rarely “law.” A “school graduate” who is described as “law” is nonsensical. “Law school graduate” is appropriate, not “law-school graduate.” There’s no threat of ambiguity.

    A cursory review of leading publications verifies that in almost all cases “law school graduate” is the preferred usage (here, of course, appeal to authority works, because we’re talking about accepted language usage). Now, I’m a descriptivist, so do whatever you wish, but to claim that “law-school graduate” is the preferred usage is just ignorant.

  12. law school-graduate Says:

    From the Wiki page you reference:

    “If, however, there is no risk of ambiguities, it may be written without a hyphen: Sunday morning walk.”

    As noted another poster, there is no threat of ambiguity here.

  13. Brendan Loy Says:

    I nominate the above comment by “Ain’t no answer” for the Steve Judge Award for Unnecessarily Vehement Arguments about Technicalities. :)

  14. Brendan Loy Says:

    (That’s probably not fair to Steve… his award was for arguing about technicalities, but not necessarily doing so with an overabundance of vehemence. Not that I should talk, in either case… hehe.)

  15. isuquinndog Says:

    Congrats, Brendan! Hopefully you and Becky have a great start to your new life in Knoxville!

  16. Sean Says:

    Why do we keep having arguments about language usage when both usages are equally correct and acceptable? I’ll start another pointless one, just for fun: The word is soda! Stop saying pop! (There, that amused me for about two seconds.)

    PS, Congratulations. You realize I now get to call you Loyer, right?

  17. Barbara Says:

    Congrats Brendan- you both look really nice :)

  18. Brendan Loy Says:

    Heh, Sean. I actually picked that fight with Becky (purely in fun, of course) just the other day. She asked me to get her a pop, and I believe my exact words were, “I’m sorry, I’m from America, where we call it soda.” :)

  19. V Says:

    Congrats Brendan! And good luck in Knoxville!
    ps. Becky, your dress is super cute. Love ya!

  20. Ain't no answer Says:

    Why do we keep having arguments about language usage when both usages are equally correct and acceptable?

    In this case, they’re not “equally correct and acceptable.”

  21. Brian Foster Says:

    She asked me to get her a pop, and I believe my exact words were, “I’m sorry, I’m from America, where we call it soda.” :)

    But you were residing in Michiana, where “pop” is the preferred nomenclature. Or did you never make it up to visit the Pop Shop, the first building on the east side of 933 just south of the MI-IN state line? :)

    P.S. For the record, I agree with the conclusion, but not the argumentative methods, of those objecting to the hyphen.

  22. Brendan Loy Says:

    I stand by my statement that calling it “pop” is un-American. I will not be swayed by evidence, logic or counterexamples. :)

    By the way, congrats on graduating summa cum laude! Though I can’t say I’m surprised… actually, I was trying to remember which is higher, summa or magna, when I was looking through the program yesterday, and my method of figuring it out was to ask, “What is Brian Foster? Ah, summa. Okay, that must be the higher one.” :)

  23. Brenda Says:

    Congratulations Brendon. It has been so fun watching you go through the stages of your life. You guys are great and I cant wait to see you both succeed even more in life.

  24. Jay Johnson Says:

    Heh, Sean. I actually picked that fight with Becky (purely in fun, of course) just the other day. She asked me to get her a pop, and I believe my exact words were, “I’m sorry, I’m from America, where we call it soda.” :)

    Well, you’re moving to the part of the world where you simply don’t ask for either a “pop” or a “soda.” If you want a “pop” or a “soda,” you must ask for a a “Coke.” If you’re at a restaurant, your waiter/waitress will then ask you “What kind?”

    I’m going to beat that Yankee out of you, if it’s the death of me…

  25. JD Says:

    I stand by my statement that calling it “pop” is un-American. I will not be swayed by evidence, logic or counterexamples. :)

    Well, we here in the Great Flyover don’t consider the Northeast and the People’s Republic of California parts of America, anyway. :-)

    Besides, you’re outnumbered.
    http://popvssoda.com:2998/

  26. KevinP Says:

    Hey Brendan,

    Sorry I’m late, but conratulations!

  27. Sean Says:

    Here’s another question. Why are we getting linguistic advice from someone whose handle has the word “ain’t” in it?

  28. Sean Says:

    … and whose handle is a double negative…

  29. Toni Says:

    They call it Pop in Oregon… one o th many reasons I moved back to California!

    Becky you look fantastic! The color of the dress is just pretty on you.

  30. DC Says:

    Congrats, Brendan!

  31. Ain't no answer Says:

    Why are we getting linguistic advice from someone whose handle has the word “ain’t” in it? . . . and whose handle is a double negative

    Uh, because the handle was chosen ironically?

    Here’s another question: do you understand what the word “linguistics” traditionally references, and how the study of grammatical rules is considered quite different from linguistics?

    I’m right regardless of whether you think my handle is meant to be grammatically proper or not; you might bother pointing out what part of my response is incorrect.

  32. Brendan Loy Says:

    You may be right, but you’re kind of being a dick about it.


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