Who goes to Pasadena?

Could the Rose Bowl be Notre Dame vs. LSU?

18 Responses to “Who goes to Pasadena?”

  1. Andrew says:

    Nope. LSU-Michigan.

  2. David K. says:

    You know, for all their talk about people not understanding Notre Dame tradition, they sure don’t seem to understand Rose Bowl tradition.

    The idea that Michigan fans wouldn’t be excited to travel to the Rose Bowl is just ludicrous. Heck the Huskies went three straight years back in 91-93, didn’t seem to have any problems drumming up interest then.

    Its the freaking Rose Bowl, who wouldn’t want to go??

    Michigan fans will show up in droves in Pasadena.

    What would be amusing was if someone rented out a billboard near the stadium touting USC’s back to back national championships. Wouldn’t that tweak the Tiger’s nose.

  3. A N O N says:

    some more quotes from the Rose Bowl CEO:

    “First of all in general, the BCS is not enthusiastic about rematches,” Dorger said via telephone Wednesday. “In fact, they specifically tell us to avoid those if at all possible. In most cases, there’s not as much enthusiasm for a rematch, particularly if you’re going to have to spend thousands of dollars to travel out to see it. I think that’s a big factor.

    “One of the other things you have to think about is Michigan will be here potentially for the third time in four years. So breeding enthusiasm in Michigan has got to be a big consideration. You can fill in the blanks.”

    “We do look at TV ratings very closely, because TV ratings drive our brand identity,” Dorger said. “When we go to renegotiate our contract in the coming years, we’re going to have to lay our TV ratings on the line. So yes, we’re looking at good TV ratings.”

    “Yet in the final analysis, we need to pick what’s best for the Rose Bowl,” he said. “We’re just not sure what that is yet.”

    ——————–

    So ND fans (which I am not) are not supposed to speculate as to what might happen? And when they do, they “don’t understand tradition”? Have fun following Washington to their bowl game.

  4. David K. says:

    Hmm another anonymous poster who because they don’t like what i say thinks that insulting me is the way to go. Classy.

    Yes they don’t understand tradition when they give credence to the fact that michigan having been there twice makes a difference in the end. Especially when the quote is presented without context.

  5. Patrick says:

    My biggest fear is a match-up between Notre Dame and Boise State in which the Broncos prevail. That would be the embarrassment of all embarrassments.

  6. yea says:

    ND losing to Rutgers would be worse.

  7. Brendan Loy says:

    There is no possible way ND will play either Rutgers or Boise State. That would require either:

    1) the Rose Bowl to pass on Michigan and LSU and the Arkansas/Florida loser in favor of Rutgers or Boise; or

    2) the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl and Orange Bowl to all pass on Notre Dame, causing the Irish to fall into the Fiesta Bowl.

    No way does either of those scenarios happen. No. Freaking. Way. Patrick, you can stop worrying. Your “biggest fear” is about as realistic as Notre Dame playing the Loch Ness Monster in the Bonnie Prince Charlie Bowl.

  8. Brendan Loy says:

    Correction… the Tostitos Bonnie Prince Charlie Bowl. My mistake.

  9. Brendan Loy says:

    Actually, correction… a real correction this time. :) The Fiesta Bowl’s anchor team is the Big 12 champion. So if the Irish fell to the Fiesta Bowl (NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.), they’d play Oklahoma or Nebraska.

    Likewise, the Sugar Bowl’s anchor is the SEC champ (Florida or Arkansas) and the Orange Bowl’s anchor is the ACC champ (Wake Forest or Georgia Tech). Barring invocation of the “best interests of college football” rule — which has never been invoked, and it’s hard to imagine how “creating a Notre Dame-Boise State matchup” would be in the best interests of college football when, say, matching up Auburn and Utah in 2004 wasn’t — there is no possible way Notre Dame can meet either Boise State or the Big East champ (neither of whom have an “anchor” bowl) anywhere other than the Rose Bowl. And because there is no possible way the Rose Bowl will choose either of those teams ahead of Michigan, LSU and the Florida/Arkansas loser, it simply is not going to happen, period.

  10. Brendan Loy says:

    Actually, correction… a real correction this time. :) The Fiesta Bowl’s anchor team is the Big 12 champion. So if the Irish fell to the Fiesta Bowl (NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.), they’d play Oklahoma or Nebraska.

    Likewise, the Sugar Bowl’s anchor is the SEC champ (Florida or Arkansas) and the Orange Bowl’s anchor is the ACC champ (Wake Forest or Georgia Tech). Barring invocation of the “best interests of college football” rule — which has never been invoked, and it’s hard to imagine how “creating a Notre Dame-Boise State matchup” would be in the best interests of college football when, say, matching up Auburn and Utah in 2004 wasn’t — there is no possible way Notre Dame can meet either Boise State or the Big East champ (neither of whom have an “anchor” bowl) anywhere other than the Rose Bowl (which, unlike the other three bowls, has two spots to fill with non-“anchor” teams). And because there is no possible way the Rose Bowl will choose either of those teams ahead of Michigan, LSU and the Florida/Arkansas loser, it simply is not going to happen, period.

  11. Brendan Loy says:

    No wait, I’m wrong! :) I’ve got a scenario…

    I suppose, if USC loses and Florida somehow sneaks ahead of Michigan, the Irish could hypothetically play Rutgers in the Sugar Bowl. This would transpire if the Rose Bowl picks LSU to play USC (rather than setting up the Michigan-USC matchup… almost inconceivable that they’d pass on a Pac-10 vs. Big 10 matchup, but I suppose anything is possible, especially since Michigan played USC there just three years ago, and the LSU-USC matchup has a great deal of attractiveness because of that year’s championship debate), leaving the Sugar Bowl with the following options for a Notre Dame opponent: Michigan, Rutgers (assuming the Scarlet Knights win the Big East title) or Boise State. Not wanting an Irish-Skunkbear rematch, I suppose they might go with Rutgers, if given enough ticket assurances from the great state of New Jersey.

    But I say again: Not. Gonna. Happen.

  12. Strabo says:

    Pasadena has better weather and Rose Queens in tight sweaters.

  13. B. Minich says:

    Are Rose Queens like Drag Queens? Or Welfare Queens?

  14. Andrew says:

    Personally I wanted to see Boise State either go to the title game or to the Rose Bowl against Michigan. Unfortunately, I don’t think a Boise State victory over Nebraska would prove much, and I don’t think Boise State would stand a chance against Oklahoma, so I’m not all that excited about the Fiesta Bowl. And logically, there is no other place for them to go, since there’s nowhere near enough Broncos fans to travel to New Orleans or Miami.

  15. Anonymous says:

    “You know, for all their talk about people not understanding Notre Dame tradition, they sure don’t seem to understand Rose Bowl tradition.

    The idea that Michigan fans wouldn’t be excited to travel to the Rose Bowl is just ludicrous. Heck the Huskies went three straight years back in 91-93, didn’t seem to have any problems drumming up interest then.

    Its the freaking Rose Bowl, who wouldn’t want to go??

    Michigan fans will show up in droves in Pasadena.”

    Without doing a blow-by-blow analysis of the posts at BGS, I did not see many people saying that Michigan fans would not travel to Pasadena in droves, other than the actual remarks of Dorger (yes, taken out of their full context–I would assume he means something more like, people may not tune in). People were simply remarking on these comments and the strange, but slim, possibility of ND being chosen over UM for the Rose Bowl. Where is the misunderstanding of Rose Bowl tradition?

    You are upset because they didn’t say, that Dorger has no idea what he is talking about–Michigan fans will travel! (or people will tune in to see Michigan). Do I have that right? Why should ND fans react in any way other than merely speculating about what these comments could mean? Are they supposed to stand up for a fanbase they are not a part of, or the tradition of a bowl their team has not played in for over 80 years (and which has traditionally been played by a conference that for decades blacklisted ND?). I think you are asking a bit too much in addition to setting up a straw man. From the way you present it, one would think that the posts over at BGS were all to the effect of “Michigan fans won’t travel” or “They have been there enough recently–screw them.”

  16. Anonymous says:

    And note, there are no insults here. I simply just don’t see what your point is. I’m disagreeing with you but not disrespecting you, so no need to pull out the “classy” comments on this one.

  17. Wobbly H says:

    Davie,
    I don’t disagree with your main point that the poster at BGS was incorrect; Michigan fans will have no problem filling their ticket allotment to the Rose Bowl. There is a slight difference, however, between the Huskies’ repeated trips and Michigan’s three Rose Bowls in four years. When the Huskies went, the Rose Bowl was actually the “Granddaddy of Them All,” and necessarily pitted the Pac 10 champ against the Big 10 champ. This year, the Rose Bowl is a consolation game for Michigan, who wanted to go to the National Championship game and probably feels that it deserved to go. That’s the unfortunate fate of the Rose Bowl.

    However, Michigan vs. LSU seems to be a good matchup regardless. Pitting two teams from outside the two traditional Rose Bowl conferences just doesn’t seem right. Fortunately, it appears the Rose Bowl is set to pass on Notre Dame. I’d rather see us in the Sugar Bowl, anyway.

    I suggest a new signature on your comments: “Davie, Monitor of Classiness.” Give it some thought.

  18. David K. says:

    Anonymous, had you not added the snide second comment i wouldt have any reason to accuse you of poor behavior. But when you feel the need to point something out like that, well it kinda undermines your point.

    Wobbly, i don’t claim to be a monitor of classiness, i just got sick of Domer fans lording over the rest of us how “classy” they were and then behaving well just like obnoxious fans. If you want me to stop bringing it up, well may i recommend you tell your fellow fans to stop giving me reason to.