If Colorado upsets Texas in the Big 12 championship game Saturday, the Fiesta Bowl could go from hosting Notre Dame vs. Ohio State to hosting Colorado vs. West Virginia.
Heh.
You think the folks in Tempe will be rooting hard for the ‘Horns?
Just read this off of ND Choo-Choo. Pretty funny farce from “A Few Good Men.”
Dear College Football World:
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
We live in a world that has bowls. And those bowls have to be filled by teams with fans. Who’s gonna do it?? You?? You, BCS Commissioner Weiberg?? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Oregon and you curse the Irish. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that OregonÃÂs plight, while tragic, probably saved bowls. And NDÃÂs existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves bowls
You don’t want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don’t talk about at conference parties, you WANT me in that bowl. You NEED me in that bowl. We use words like honor, code, loyalty … We use these words as the backbone to a century spent building something. You use them as a punchline.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to men who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very bowls I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it! I’d rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you build your own national following and get your own national TV contract. Either way, I don’t give a DARN what you think you are entitled to!!
NYT has a article in their sports section today. Apparently while in high school in San Diego Reggie Bush was also the teams starting punter. The school was known for faking just about as many punts as the attempted.
the success of bowls is because of Notre Dame? riiight, cause the Rose Bowl, the biggest bowl of them all for years upon years relied on having Notre Dame play in it…oh….wait….no
Yes. Again David… the Notre Dame thing… you’re obsessed… let it go. Every little thing sets you off! Patrick’s comment, now this completely silly joke… it’s as if you had a traumatic childhood experience that involved Notre Dame getting an undeserved BCS berth, or something!
So other people can bring it up as much as they want about how great ND is and how they deserve to go, but a dissenter is suppose to keep quiet about it?
David, if people are talking about “how great ND is and how they deserve to go,” then of course a “dissenter” can answer… but if people are clearly making a rather ridiculous joke/satire/parody/farce, anyone who seriously “dissents” from said joke will look rather silly. In other words, like anony said: Take a joke.
Having read and re-read beefs post, although it may be couched in humor it seems to me nothing more than more “ND is the center of the football world we deserve the BCS game” talk that has been coming out of thebeef for awhile now. And as to Patricks comment, yes I do think it is whining. There are programs out there who would love to get in to a BCS game, meanwhile ND is going to get in, ahead of teams who are ranked above them, because of the money. Its bad enough that other worthy teams are going to get left out, but to have them whining about who they get to play? The Big East might be a less than stellar conference but West Virigina has done everything but win one game, and yes I think its annoying to hear the hubris of ND fans when they should be excited about getting to play in the Fiesta Bowl at all.
I think its annoying to hear the hubris of ND fans…
Well, I think it’s annoying to hear you whining about Notre Dame fans whining about who they play in the BCS. Honestly! They’re just being football fans, saying the sort of things that any football fan would say. NO ONE wants to play West Virginia, just like Utah didn’t want Pittsburgh last year. It’s got nothing to do with the “hubris” of the Golden Dome.
Although thebeef’s personal insults of you are uncalled for (”straight-jacket” etc.), that’s a two-way street — you both are unreasonably critical of one another - and many of his actual football analyses are MUCH more rational and reasonable than you give him credit for. You talk about him like he’s some raving lunatic who never does anything except pound his chest and says “IRISH GOOD! EVERYONE ELSE BAD!” But that’s just not true, and it never has been true. You can disagree with him all you want, but the guy has made plenty of intelligent, well-thought-out, well-expressed comments about football. And his opinions have not been unchanging or unwilling to acknowledge inconvenient truths. A good example is how he has changed his tune about Oregon ever since the USC-Fresno game. He has admitted that he now believes Oregon is deserving of respect, albeit he doesn’t agree with you that they are worthy of MORE repsect that Notre Dame — but he makes a reasonable case for why that is so. Your caricature of his position (”ND is the center of the football world we deserve the BCS game”) is nothing more than that, a caricature.
As for the Choo Choo Charlie Weis satire, again, it is a PARODY, and to the extent that it exudes an “ND is the center of the football world” attitude, it can just as easily be taken as making fun of that attitude, as promoting it. But you insist, of course, that it has only one possible meaning, and that meaning is: Domers are assholes. Surprise, surprise.
I am sorry David, I don’t mean to antagonize you, but as sick as you are of what you see as Notre Dame fans’ “hubris,” that’s exactly how sick I am of your incessant whining about every single damn thing that any Notre Dame fan says that doesn’t completely coincide with your personal viewpoint (which you seem to believe is pretty close to the incontrovertible truth) about ND’s lack of BCS credentials.
I say this as someone who has acknowledged that Ohio State and Oregon are probably objectively more qualified than the Irish (though I think it’s a close call), and as someone who fully understandx where you’re coming from, because because before I came to ND, I used to root against the Irish and rail against the special treatment they get… but just because there is some truth to the “special treatment” argument (which thebeef has acknowledged, BTW!), doesn’t mean it is the one and only explanation for everything, and it certainly doesn’t mean that you are justified in engaging in this unending anti-ND crusade, acting like there are no reasonable defenses of the Irish, ignoring the magnitude of crucial points like the computers’ structural flaws which hurt ND, contradicting your own rankings when it’s convenient (I still haven’t heard you explain why ND is so clearly out of the top 8 when you had them at #12 two weeks ago and four teams above them have since lost, in one case twice), and pretending like practically every single thing that any ND fan says is somehow “hubristic” or unsportsmanlike or whatever. Ack. It’s just REALLY tiresome.
P.S. Remember how I was complaining a few weeks ago about how sick I was of Irish fans incessantly attacking USC — the team, the university, the fans, etc.? It’s not like I’m of the opinion that Notre Dame fans can do no wrong. I’d just like to see some tangible evidence that you haven’t fallen into the belief that they can do no right.
Brendan…I’m cracking-up right now with the thought of me walking around like a neanderthal, dragging my fists and yelling: NOTRE DAME GOOD, EVERYONE ELSE BAD!
And while I agree that my insults toward David are certainly juvenile, unlike you, I take pleasure in antagonizing David…its one of those guilty pleasures.
The fact of the matter is, all of this “controversy” is exactly why Notre Dame will recieve preferential treament come bowl-time. What will all of those Oregon fans, seething with hatred for Notre Dame, do in January? You guessed it: tune into the Notre Dame game. Because if half the country likes to watch the Irish win, the other half absolutely loves to watch them lose.
Brendan, fair enough I can see how my outrage at this situation is annoying, and I will tone it down.
I am glad that you admit that Notre Dame is likely to get in over teams that are more deserving, I’d hate to see that you were brainwashed, and for the record I really don’t have anything against Notre Dame as a school, and really in the past I have rooted FOR Notre Dame (as a loyal Catholic boy should).
It is a personal pet peeve of mine that when people act like blind zealots, which is how I feel some of the fans that have come here have been doing, I should of course not let it get to me as much, but I am only human.
I do think that Notre Dame is one of the better football programs this year in the country, and I would like to see them go to a good bowl. As for why I think the Irish aren’t in the top 10? Well I think that the order as it stands goes like this for the top 8.
1 USC
2 Texas
3 Penn State
4 LSU
5 Virginia Tech
6 Oregon
6 Ohio State
8 West Virginia
The next 5 i see that might qualify would be Notre Dame, UCLA, TCU, Auburn, and Miami. I’d probably put Miami in last out of those 5, but I can see arguments for putting them in various orders. I think Auburns early loss to Georgia Tech hurts them, but I think they finished stronger than the Irish, so I’m inclined to put them at 9. TCU only lost once but it wasn’t to a very good team, the same goes for UCLA.
So my next group would probably be
9 Auburn
10 Notre Dame
11 UCLA
12 TCU
13 Miami.
I do think that Notre Dame is in the top 10 right now, but since there are only 8 spots I think they should get a pat on the back, a nice bowl game, and good luck next year.
As for you beef, you must also be a Yankees fan, because you really and truly are just an ass.
I can see how my outrage at this situation is annoying, and I will tone it down.
Thanks. :) But, look, I’m not trying to silence you when we’re having substantive discussions of this stuff. All I ask if that you try to snap at ND people for saying things that are borderline irrelevant to the whole “is ND deserving?” debate.
It is a personal pet peeve of mine that when people act like blind zealots, which is how I feel some of the fans that have come here have been doing, I should of course not let it get to me as much, but I am only human.
My only advice would be, in your zealous desire to weed out zealotry, be careful not to become that which you detest, young padawan. :)
Your top 10 is fair, I suppose. You’ve moved West Virginia and Auburn ahead of ND since three weeks ago. I don’t agree, but OK.
Yankees fan!? Not a chance, they’re a bunch of arrogant pricks that feel as though they’re entitled to a World Series championship every year simply because they have a storied tradition…please
BTW: You have West Virgnia ranked way, way too high–what’s their claim to fame? Edging Louisville–a team with 2 losses to the only remotely tough teams on their schedule? (You also have TCU overranked)
Auburn’s good…wouldn’t rank them higher than ND (I wouldn’t rank Oregon higher than ND), but they’re certainly top 10 (I’d put Oregon in at #9 and Auburn in at #10)
Speaking of football and “you can’t handle the truth,” anyone see that Army allegedly stole the CIC Trophy from the Naval Academy on Monday? (And at 170 lbs I don’t think it was the Army of One; it probably took a few guys.)
I have a co-worker like David - he’s obsessed with Notre Dame’s lack of qualifications. I see his point, but its not going to bother me that much if they go to the BCS - espicially since Penn State IS going to the BCS. Hard to be bitter when you are going yourself.
I think the interesting question here is . . . should Notre Dame go, and either Ohio State or Oregon is left out, how will that effect the shape of the BCS in the future? The BCS is up for renegotiation next year - if the Pac-10 or the Big 10 (aka the Big Cleverly Drawn 11) think they got gypped out of over $1 million per school, and Notre Dame gets all $13 million of it instead, they aren’t going to sit around and let Notre Dame get in as easily next time around. Both the Pac-10 and the Big Cleverly Drawn 11 may unite, realizing how close it came to being their conference that got left out of more money - I can see one allying with the other out of realization that “if it wasn’t them, it would have been US!!”. If this occurs with the BCS up for changes so soon afterwards, this will make life very interesting in those discussions. Timing is everything in these matters, and for Notre Dame, they may have hit on bad timing. It may be best for their long term bowl prospects if they DON’T make a BCS bowl this year - the conferences may not negotiate as hard if they don’t have a chip on their shoulder coming in.
This is the last year Notre Dame will get the entire conference share of the winnings.
Also, Notre Dame is not getting into the BCS due to preferrential treatment of the rules…it’s getting in due to preferrential treatment from the bowls.
The conferences’ beef isn’t with Notre Dame, its with the system they signed onto. If the PAC-10 is upset that Oregon doesn’t get into the bowl game, it’s their fault for signing onto a system that rewards conference champions as opposed to teams actually deserving of the trip. If you ask me, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Oregon* should all go to a BCS bowl…but since neither are conference champs, they have to hope for a bid, which OSU will get and Oregon will not. Meanwhile, #11 West Virginia, whose claim to fame is a close win against Louisville, will enjoy a guaranteed bid. That’s not Notre Dame’s fault…that’s the BCS’ fault.
*I posted above that Oregon should be ranked 9th–that’s horse shit–they should be ranked 8th
I am pretty sure Mack Brown has been told that if he leaves Houston a loser he might as well put his house up for sale before the triple zeros appear on the scoreboard!!!
November 30th, 2005 at 1:15:51 pm
Just read this off of ND Choo-Choo. Pretty funny farce from “A Few Good Men.”
Dear College Football World:
YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
We live in a world that has bowls. And those bowls have to be filled by teams with fans. Who’s gonna do it?? You?? You, BCS Commissioner Weiberg?? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Oregon and you curse the Irish. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that OregonÃÂs plight, while tragic, probably saved bowls. And NDÃÂs existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves bowls
You don’t want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don’t talk about at conference parties, you WANT me in that bowl. You NEED me in that bowl. We use words like honor, code, loyalty … We use these words as the backbone to a century spent building something. You use them as a punchline.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to men who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very bowls I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it! I’d rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you build your own national following and get your own national TV contract. Either way, I don’t give a DARN what you think you are entitled to!!
November 30th, 2005 at 1:23:17 pm
NYT has a article in their sports section today. Apparently while in high school in San Diego Reggie Bush was also the teams starting punter. The school was known for faking just about as many punts as the attempted.
November 30th, 2005 at 1:44:18 pm
Wow! That is absolutley amazing that Reggie Bush punted! I cant believe it! Don’t even try and tell me he played basketball or ran track.
Speaking of punting, I wonder which punter has the highest yds-per-punt average. Hmmm ….. http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/stats/bycategory?cat=Punting&conference=I-A_all&year=2005&sort=404
November 30th, 2005 at 1:47:05 pm
the success of bowls is because of Notre Dame? riiight, cause the Rose Bowl, the biggest bowl of them all for years upon years relied on having Notre Dame play in it…oh….wait….no
November 30th, 2005 at 2:39:05 pm
Take a joke dude; I think it’s pretty clear the A Few Good Men thing is a farce.
November 30th, 2005 at 2:50:15 pm
Yes. Again David… the Notre Dame thing… you’re obsessed… let it go. Every little thing sets you off! Patrick’s comment, now this completely silly joke… it’s as if you had a traumatic childhood experience that involved Notre Dame getting an undeserved BCS berth, or something!
November 30th, 2005 at 3:34:14 pm
So other people can bring it up as much as they want about how great ND is and how they deserve to go, but a dissenter is suppose to keep quiet about it?
November 30th, 2005 at 3:34:41 pm
Wow, not only have the Irish seemingly secured a BCS berth, but they’ve also driven David into the straight-jacket. Not a bad year.
November 30th, 2005 at 4:10:59 pm
David, if people are talking about “how great ND is and how they deserve to go,” then of course a “dissenter” can answer… but if people are clearly making a rather ridiculous joke/satire/parody/farce, anyone who seriously “dissents” from said joke will look rather silly. In other words, like anony said: Take a joke.
November 30th, 2005 at 5:49:05 pm
Having read and re-read beefs post, although it may be couched in humor it seems to me nothing more than more “ND is the center of the football world we deserve the BCS game” talk that has been coming out of thebeef for awhile now. And as to Patricks comment, yes I do think it is whining. There are programs out there who would love to get in to a BCS game, meanwhile ND is going to get in, ahead of teams who are ranked above them, because of the money. Its bad enough that other worthy teams are going to get left out, but to have them whining about who they get to play? The Big East might be a less than stellar conference but West Virigina has done everything but win one game, and yes I think its annoying to hear the hubris of ND fans when they should be excited about getting to play in the Fiesta Bowl at all.
November 30th, 2005 at 6:50:54 pm
I think its annoying to hear the hubris of ND fans…
Well, I think it’s annoying to hear you whining about Notre Dame fans whining about who they play in the BCS. Honestly! They’re just being football fans, saying the sort of things that any football fan would say. NO ONE wants to play West Virginia, just like Utah didn’t want Pittsburgh last year. It’s got nothing to do with the “hubris” of the Golden Dome.
Although thebeef’s personal insults of you are uncalled for (”straight-jacket” etc.), that’s a two-way street — you both are unreasonably critical of one another - and many of his actual football analyses are MUCH more rational and reasonable than you give him credit for. You talk about him like he’s some raving lunatic who never does anything except pound his chest and says “IRISH GOOD! EVERYONE ELSE BAD!” But that’s just not true, and it never has been true. You can disagree with him all you want, but the guy has made plenty of intelligent, well-thought-out, well-expressed comments about football. And his opinions have not been unchanging or unwilling to acknowledge inconvenient truths. A good example is how he has changed his tune about Oregon ever since the USC-Fresno game. He has admitted that he now believes Oregon is deserving of respect, albeit he doesn’t agree with you that they are worthy of MORE repsect that Notre Dame — but he makes a reasonable case for why that is so. Your caricature of his position (”ND is the center of the football world we deserve the BCS game”) is nothing more than that, a caricature.
As for the Choo Choo Charlie Weis satire, again, it is a PARODY, and to the extent that it exudes an “ND is the center of the football world” attitude, it can just as easily be taken as making fun of that attitude, as promoting it. But you insist, of course, that it has only one possible meaning, and that meaning is: Domers are assholes. Surprise, surprise.
I am sorry David, I don’t mean to antagonize you, but as sick as you are of what you see as Notre Dame fans’ “hubris,” that’s exactly how sick I am of your incessant whining about every single damn thing that any Notre Dame fan says that doesn’t completely coincide with your personal viewpoint (which you seem to believe is pretty close to the incontrovertible truth) about ND’s lack of BCS credentials.
I say this as someone who has acknowledged that Ohio State and Oregon are probably objectively more qualified than the Irish (though I think it’s a close call), and as someone who fully understandx where you’re coming from, because because before I came to ND, I used to root against the Irish and rail against the special treatment they get… but just because there is some truth to the “special treatment” argument (which thebeef has acknowledged, BTW!), doesn’t mean it is the one and only explanation for everything, and it certainly doesn’t mean that you are justified in engaging in this unending anti-ND crusade, acting like there are no reasonable defenses of the Irish, ignoring the magnitude of crucial points like the computers’ structural flaws which hurt ND, contradicting your own rankings when it’s convenient (I still haven’t heard you explain why ND is so clearly out of the top 8 when you had them at #12 two weeks ago and four teams above them have since lost, in one case twice), and pretending like practically every single thing that any ND fan says is somehow “hubristic” or unsportsmanlike or whatever. Ack. It’s just REALLY tiresome.
P.S. Remember how I was complaining a few weeks ago about how sick I was of Irish fans incessantly attacking USC — the team, the university, the fans, etc.? It’s not like I’m of the opinion that Notre Dame fans can do no wrong. I’d just like to see some tangible evidence that you haven’t fallen into the belief that they can do no right.
November 30th, 2005 at 6:55:37 pm
For those unable, I will translate David’s post for you. David’s post says: No, Brendan, I cannot take a joke.
November 30th, 2005 at 7:07:38 pm
Brendan…I’m cracking-up right now with the thought of me walking around like a neanderthal, dragging my fists and yelling: NOTRE DAME GOOD, EVERYONE ELSE BAD!
And while I agree that my insults toward David are certainly juvenile, unlike you, I take pleasure in antagonizing David…its one of those guilty pleasures.
The fact of the matter is, all of this “controversy” is exactly why Notre Dame will recieve preferential treament come bowl-time. What will all of those Oregon fans, seething with hatred for Notre Dame, do in January? You guessed it: tune into the Notre Dame game. Because if half the country likes to watch the Irish win, the other half absolutely loves to watch them lose.
November 30th, 2005 at 8:59:06 pm
Brendan, fair enough I can see how my outrage at this situation is annoying, and I will tone it down.
I am glad that you admit that Notre Dame is likely to get in over teams that are more deserving, I’d hate to see that you were brainwashed, and for the record I really don’t have anything against Notre Dame as a school, and really in the past I have rooted FOR Notre Dame (as a loyal Catholic boy should).
It is a personal pet peeve of mine that when people act like blind zealots, which is how I feel some of the fans that have come here have been doing, I should of course not let it get to me as much, but I am only human.
I do think that Notre Dame is one of the better football programs this year in the country, and I would like to see them go to a good bowl. As for why I think the Irish aren’t in the top 10? Well I think that the order as it stands goes like this for the top 8.
1 USC
2 Texas
3 Penn State
4 LSU
5 Virginia Tech
6 Oregon
6 Ohio State
8 West Virginia
The next 5 i see that might qualify would be Notre Dame, UCLA, TCU, Auburn, and Miami. I’d probably put Miami in last out of those 5, but I can see arguments for putting them in various orders. I think Auburns early loss to Georgia Tech hurts them, but I think they finished stronger than the Irish, so I’m inclined to put them at 9. TCU only lost once but it wasn’t to a very good team, the same goes for UCLA.
So my next group would probably be
9 Auburn
10 Notre Dame
11 UCLA
12 TCU
13 Miami.
I do think that Notre Dame is in the top 10 right now, but since there are only 8 spots I think they should get a pat on the back, a nice bowl game, and good luck next year.
As for you beef, you must also be a Yankees fan, because you really and truly are just an ass.
November 30th, 2005 at 9:14:45 pm
I can see how my outrage at this situation is annoying, and I will tone it down.
Thanks. :) But, look, I’m not trying to silence you when we’re having substantive discussions of this stuff. All I ask if that you try to snap at ND people for saying things that are borderline irrelevant to the whole “is ND deserving?” debate.
It is a personal pet peeve of mine that when people act like blind zealots, which is how I feel some of the fans that have come here have been doing, I should of course not let it get to me as much, but I am only human.
My only advice would be, in your zealous desire to weed out zealotry, be careful not to become that which you detest, young padawan. :)
Your top 10 is fair, I suppose. You’ve moved West Virginia and Auburn ahead of ND since three weeks ago. I don’t agree, but OK.
November 30th, 2005 at 9:43:27 pm
Yankees fan!? Not a chance, they’re a bunch of arrogant pricks that feel as though they’re entitled to a World Series championship every year simply because they have a storied tradition…please
BTW: You have West Virgnia ranked way, way too high–what’s their claim to fame? Edging Louisville–a team with 2 losses to the only remotely tough teams on their schedule? (You also have TCU overranked)
Auburn’s good…wouldn’t rank them higher than ND (I wouldn’t rank Oregon higher than ND), but they’re certainly top 10 (I’d put Oregon in at #9 and Auburn in at #10)
November 30th, 2005 at 10:04:16 pm
LOL beef… that first paragraph was funny.
November 30th, 2005 at 10:41:04 pm
Guys calm down. All these points and rankings are MOOT as they will surely change after this weekend.
November 30th, 2005 at 11:04:59 pm
Speaking of football and “you can’t handle the truth,” anyone see that Army allegedly stole the CIC Trophy from the Naval Academy on Monday? (And at 170 lbs I don’t think it was the Army of One; it probably took a few guys.)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/11/30/bc.fbc.navy.trophystole.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/30/AR2005113000841.html
and of course,
http://briandot.org/archives/000302.html
December 1st, 2005 at 12:55:31 am
I have a co-worker like David - he’s obsessed with Notre Dame’s lack of qualifications. I see his point, but its not going to bother me that much if they go to the BCS - espicially since Penn State IS going to the BCS. Hard to be bitter when you are going yourself.
I think the interesting question here is . . . should Notre Dame go, and either Ohio State or Oregon is left out, how will that effect the shape of the BCS in the future? The BCS is up for renegotiation next year - if the Pac-10 or the Big 10 (aka the Big Cleverly Drawn 11) think they got gypped out of over $1 million per school, and Notre Dame gets all $13 million of it instead, they aren’t going to sit around and let Notre Dame get in as easily next time around. Both the Pac-10 and the Big Cleverly Drawn 11 may unite, realizing how close it came to being their conference that got left out of more money - I can see one allying with the other out of realization that “if it wasn’t them, it would have been US!!”. If this occurs with the BCS up for changes so soon afterwards, this will make life very interesting in those discussions. Timing is everything in these matters, and for Notre Dame, they may have hit on bad timing. It may be best for their long term bowl prospects if they DON’T make a BCS bowl this year - the conferences may not negotiate as hard if they don’t have a chip on their shoulder coming in.
December 1st, 2005 at 1:59:10 am
This is the last year Notre Dame will get the entire conference share of the winnings.
Also, Notre Dame is not getting into the BCS due to preferrential treatment of the rules…it’s getting in due to preferrential treatment from the bowls.
The conferences’ beef isn’t with Notre Dame, its with the system they signed onto. If the PAC-10 is upset that Oregon doesn’t get into the bowl game, it’s their fault for signing onto a system that rewards conference champions as opposed to teams actually deserving of the trip. If you ask me, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Oregon* should all go to a BCS bowl…but since neither are conference champs, they have to hope for a bid, which OSU will get and Oregon will not. Meanwhile, #11 West Virginia, whose claim to fame is a close win against Louisville, will enjoy a guaranteed bid. That’s not Notre Dame’s fault…that’s the BCS’ fault.
*I posted above that Oregon should be ranked 9th–that’s horse shit–they should be ranked 8th
December 1st, 2005 at 7:22:53 am
I am pretty sure Mack Brown has been told that if he leaves Houston a loser he might as well put his house up for sale before the triple zeros appear on the scoreboard!!!
December 2nd, 2005 at 1:02:11 am
Here’s a brand new BCS scenario for you to ponder, Brendan:
http://writedowntoascience.blogspot.com/2005/12/inevitable-bcs-disaster2007-and-beyond.html