Yes, Filthy. Very big of you to make light of his health issues, especially considering the fact that he almost died a few years ago, you insensitive bastard.*
* Brendan, I tried. But I’m afraid I’m no good at insufferable indignance. Sorry.
Filthy, you’re right. Charlie ain’t thin. Just as Leinart’s beard ain’t a virgin…
Particular interesting dichotomy this weekend regarding current/former ND coaches. On the one hand, you have Weis, who tried his best to ease a cancer victim’s pain and bring some small measure of happiness to his family.
On the other hand, there’s Ty Willingham letting John Saunders fight his battles for him, accusing ND of using him, stabbing him in the back, and firing him because he was black. Nothing like accusing one of the most generous, service oriented universities in the world of being racist. Solid work by the molder of men.
Back to the gesture from Weis: the story is amazing on several levels. For example, imagine being the mother of a boy named after Joe Montana, he’s ten and now he’s undeniably dying. The oncologist has finally given up the ghost - his medical treatment is finished. Nothing left to offer the boy but the hope of God’s mercy in the afterlife.
Well, maybe one thing to offer - his hero.
A hero who not only came through but took the experience seriously enough to call the boy’s play, when it was unwise from a football perspective to do so.
Angrier is right, makes you want to cry, in my case almost something else…
…yeah I have very strong personal ties to the University of Michigan and Marquette University, so I pretty much hate Notre Dame six ways to the weekend.
But first this blog and then Saint Charlie, hell I may just decide ND is alright after all.
Thanks for checking in. I’m glad to hear that you are kosher with folks making unfounded claims of institutional racism, which, as you well know, are easy to make and usually lacking in evidence.
Ty Willingham was let go because he had a 3 year performance clause in his contract, and he didn’t meet it. Major college sports is a highly pressurized, competitive environment. Like it or not, these coaches are routinely cast aside when they fail to meet expectations. The only thing Ty Willingham was a “victim” of is very high expectations in major college sports.
But the point is not whether he was a good football coach, it’s the cowardly manner in which he’s allowed others to make accusations for him, and his accusation on Saturday. Calling ND racist imputes it on everyone associated with the school. It brands the ND Family as racists. Loy, me, and all of our friends and classmates, the numerous priests and clergy folk, not to mention the countless professors who make the university work, all tarnished by a baseless accusation.
Thankfully, the MSM has ignored the last, desperate plea from an unsuccessful coach and is now focused on the wonderfully gracious gesture by Charlie. I shall now do the same.
It matters not whom you pull for on Saturday, we can all agree that the world would be a much better place if more folks cherished the idea of family and service such as Charlie Weis. Looking in the mirror, I find myself lacking in this respect compared to him. (Appearance-wise too, as Charlie has some girth on me.)
Coach, David said ND stabbed Ty in the back, which does not mean David is ok with racism, nor is he claiming racism lead to Ty being fired. David could think ND screwed Ty over AND that it had nothing to with race and everything to dowith something else. I actually do not know what David thinks, but his statement here is not enough to conclude what you just concluded: that David condones institutionalized racism. Yes, I am defending David, calm down everyone :)
-Willingham and John Saunders accused ND of institutional racism. I posted as such.
-David read my post and disagreed with it so much that he felt the need to comment.
-That he read my post and did not criticize Willing-Saunders’ institutional racism claims says to me that he is comfortable with that characterization.
I don’t recall accusing you of being Swarthington, and I certainly don’t recall accusing you of any felonies and misdemeanors. I just said it was interesting how you posted right after Swarthington and that you sounded like Edgar Bergen speaking to Charlie McCarthy. It’s more along the lines of “things that make you go hmmmm” as opposed to an accusation, tawdry or otherwise.
“I believe Coach Leahy is several people. He specifically responds to Swarthington right after Swarthy posts. When he does, he sounds like Edgar Bergen talking to Charlie McCarthy.”
I don’t mean to perseverate, and I feel conflicted given a basic personal dislike for Notre Dame - but to be clear this is not your garden-variety “Hero-visits-sick-kid” story.
Straight from the article:
Before leaving, Weis signed the football.
“He wrote, ‘Live for today for tomorrow is always another day,”’ Mazurkiewicz said.
“He told him: ‘You can’t worry about tomorrow. Just live today for everything it has and everything you can appreciate,” she said. “He said: ‘If you’re (in pain) today you might not necessarily be in pain tomorrow, or it might be worse. But there’s always another day.”
Weis asked Montana if there was something he could do for him. He agreed to let Montana call the first play against Washington on Saturday. He called “pass right.”
Amazing words to back an amazing story. Beautiful words for a stranger at death’s door…Matthew 25:31-46 at its finest - Charlie Weis is the BEST, no matter how many more football games he wins (hopefully none at Notre Dame, but many more elsewhere :).
Charlie’s priorities are in order. I don’t know if you are familiar with the story about his daughter… He and his wife are the definition of loving, caring parents. Whether he wins one more game or 100, he’s already a winner in the big game of Life.
Yes, by believing that Ty was treated unfairly by Notre Dame, I obviously am claiming that there was racism involved. Yet another example of how Leahy has brought the level of intellectual discourse around here to an all time low.
Having not been privy to all the details that Ty was I have no idea whether there was institutional racism involved or not, that doesn’t mean I can’t still think he was treated unfairly. Get a grip Leahy.
My post specifically referenced unfounded allegations of racism by Willing-Saunders. I assumed most would understand that was the main reason why I found it distasteful. That you chose to ignore it was curious to me. It’s obvious that I mistook your silence for assent. For that, I apologize.
I think we can both agree that for Ty to allege racism in the lame way that he did in the interview is disgraceful. If he believes he is the victim of racism, come out and prove it. Ty chose to insinuate that his firing racially motivated without any evidence, in the meantime besmirching the reputation of an entire University.
Thanks for responding to my argument, you f*cking idiot.
I can’t believe you’re going down in flames over Ty Willingham. Surely there’s a more worthy coach to ruin your sports fan reputation over?
How about Phil Jackson- you could argue that he’s better than Red Auerbach.
Hell, if you feel the need to defend a middling black coach, take up the banner for Tony Dungy. Wasn’t he discarded unfairly by Tampa Bay? Isn’t that Glazer guy racist?
I don’t expect to admit he’s not a good coach. You’re a fan. But you could perhaps address the point that he was out of line to insinuate institutional racism after going 21-15, 13-15 in his last 28…
I’m not going to comment about the racism comment becuase I haven’t heard or read anything about it. Period.
Your need to read into other peoples statements what you want to see and not what they write is getting old and tired Leahy. You wonder why people consider what you say to be tripe? Thats a pretty good starter.
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September 26th, 2005 at 8:51:20 am
So, anymore teams have Notre Dame circled on their calendar?
September 26th, 2005 at 9:53:21 am
read that article on Sunday. Charlie is awesome.
September 26th, 2005 at 9:58:23 am
I would expect nothing less. Charlie is a very solid person who appreciates the value of family.
On another note, Brendan, can we have an update on the USC/ND pick ‘em contest?
Thanks.
September 26th, 2005 at 10:04:30 am
Charlie Weis may be a great guy, but he has a huge FUPA.
September 26th, 2005 at 10:18:03 am
This is sad, man. It made me want to cry just reading it. Weis is a good guy.
September 26th, 2005 at 10:21:17 am
Yes, Filthy. Very big of you to make light of his health issues, especially considering the fact that he almost died a few years ago, you insensitive bastard.*
* Brendan, I tried. But I’m afraid I’m no good at insufferable indignance. Sorry.
Filthy, you’re right. Charlie ain’t thin. Just as Leinart’s beard ain’t a virgin…
September 26th, 2005 at 10:25:19 am
Angry,
Any time you want to retract your tawdry accusation from last Friday, let me know.
September 26th, 2005 at 10:40:54 am
Yes,
I am an insensitive bastard. I will not argue with you, Angry.
September 26th, 2005 at 11:16:11 am
Particular interesting dichotomy this weekend regarding current/former ND coaches. On the one hand, you have Weis, who tried his best to ease a cancer victim’s pain and bring some small measure of happiness to his family.
On the other hand, there’s Ty Willingham letting John Saunders fight his battles for him, accusing ND of using him, stabbing him in the back, and firing him because he was black. Nothing like accusing one of the most generous, service oriented universities in the world of being racist. Solid work by the molder of men.
September 26th, 2005 at 11:51:38 am
Back to the gesture from Weis: the story is amazing on several levels. For example, imagine being the mother of a boy named after Joe Montana, he’s ten and now he’s undeniably dying. The oncologist has finally given up the ghost - his medical treatment is finished. Nothing left to offer the boy but the hope of God’s mercy in the afterlife.
Well, maybe one thing to offer - his hero.
A hero who not only came through but took the experience seriously enough to call the boy’s play, when it was unwise from a football perspective to do so.
Angrier is right, makes you want to cry, in my case almost something else…
…yeah I have very strong personal ties to the University of Michigan and Marquette University, so I pretty much hate Notre Dame six ways to the weekend.
But first this blog and then Saint Charlie, hell I may just decide ND is alright after all.
September 26th, 2005 at 11:58:42 am
Jazz, well said, too bad people like Leahy make you rethink that.
BTW, Leahy, ND DID stab Ty in the back, and only a blind fool like yourself won’t admit that.
September 26th, 2005 at 12:10:10 pm
Davie Boy,
Thanks for checking in. I’m glad to hear that you are kosher with folks making unfounded claims of institutional racism, which, as you well know, are easy to make and usually lacking in evidence.
Ty Willingham was let go because he had a 3 year performance clause in his contract, and he didn’t meet it. Major college sports is a highly pressurized, competitive environment. Like it or not, these coaches are routinely cast aside when they fail to meet expectations. The only thing Ty Willingham was a “victim” of is very high expectations in major college sports.
But the point is not whether he was a good football coach, it’s the cowardly manner in which he’s allowed others to make accusations for him, and his accusation on Saturday. Calling ND racist imputes it on everyone associated with the school. It brands the ND Family as racists. Loy, me, and all of our friends and classmates, the numerous priests and clergy folk, not to mention the countless professors who make the university work, all tarnished by a baseless accusation.
Thankfully, the MSM has ignored the last, desperate plea from an unsuccessful coach and is now focused on the wonderfully gracious gesture by Charlie. I shall now do the same.
It matters not whom you pull for on Saturday, we can all agree that the world would be a much better place if more folks cherished the idea of family and service such as Charlie Weis. Looking in the mirror, I find myself lacking in this respect compared to him. (Appearance-wise too, as Charlie has some girth on me.)
September 26th, 2005 at 12:17:24 pm
Coach, David said ND stabbed Ty in the back, which does not mean David is ok with racism, nor is he claiming racism lead to Ty being fired. David could think ND screwed Ty over AND that it had nothing to with race and everything to dowith something else. I actually do not know what David thinks, but his statement here is not enough to conclude what you just concluded: that David condones institutionalized racism. Yes, I am defending David, calm down everyone :)
September 26th, 2005 at 12:39:37 pm
Bea,
Read closely.
-Willingham and John Saunders accused ND of institutional racism. I posted as such.
-David read my post and disagreed with it so much that he felt the need to comment.
-That he read my post and did not criticize Willing-Saunders’ institutional racism claims says to me that he is comfortable with that characterization.
September 26th, 2005 at 12:44:48 pm
Ommission equals support. Whatever we do not actively argue against we support. Got it. Whatever.
September 26th, 2005 at 12:55:16 pm
Sorry, Queen, that’s the way I see it. Did not mean to make you upset.
September 26th, 2005 at 1:15:21 pm
If Brendan is king of bloy.com, then maybe you need to rethink this ugly queen title for me, because Becky is Brendan’s queen, not me.
September 26th, 2005 at 1:16:03 pm
Coach Leahy-
Which “tawdry accusation” would that be?
September 26th, 2005 at 1:26:27 pm
You accused me of inventing the Swarthington persona and other garden variey felonies and misdemeanors…
September 26th, 2005 at 1:51:26 pm
I don’t recall accusing you of being Swarthington, and I certainly don’t recall accusing you of any felonies and misdemeanors. I just said it was interesting how you posted right after Swarthington and that you sounded like Edgar Bergen speaking to Charlie McCarthy. It’s more along the lines of “things that make you go hmmmm” as opposed to an accusation, tawdry or otherwise.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:01:52 pm
Angry, your quote:
“I believe Coach Leahy is several people. He specifically responds to Swarthington right after Swarthy posts. When he does, he sounds like Edgar Bergen talking to Charlie McCarthy.”
Feel free to amend your statement at any time…
September 26th, 2005 at 3:03:48 pm
As a Michigan State alum, I have strong feelings of dislike for ND football (although you did beat Michigan, which is good).
Those are totally separate from what I see as a class act, stand-up guy, using his position in life for the good of the community.
Hopefully, we all (Spartans and Irish alike) try to follow his example and do good in our communities.
September 26th, 2005 at 3:07:41 pm
Well said, Rusty. Charlie provides a shining example of how one person can make a difference in other’s lives.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:02:13 pm
I don’t mean to perseverate, and I feel conflicted given a basic personal dislike for Notre Dame - but to be clear this is not your garden-variety “Hero-visits-sick-kid” story.
Straight from the article:
Before leaving, Weis signed the football.
“He wrote, ‘Live for today for tomorrow is always another day,”’ Mazurkiewicz said.
“He told him: ‘You can’t worry about tomorrow. Just live today for everything it has and everything you can appreciate,” she said. “He said: ‘If you’re (in pain) today you might not necessarily be in pain tomorrow, or it might be worse. But there’s always another day.”
Weis asked Montana if there was something he could do for him. He agreed to let Montana call the first play against Washington on Saturday. He called “pass right.”
Amazing words to back an amazing story. Beautiful words for a stranger at death’s door…Matthew 25:31-46 at its finest - Charlie Weis is the BEST, no matter how many more football games he wins (hopefully none at Notre Dame, but many more elsewhere :).
September 26th, 2005 at 4:06:05 pm
Jazz,
Charlie’s priorities are in order. I don’t know if you are familiar with the story about his daughter… He and his wife are the definition of loving, caring parents. Whether he wins one more game or 100, he’s already a winner in the big game of Life.
I’m getting verklempt…
September 26th, 2005 at 4:06:05 pm
Yes, by believing that Ty was treated unfairly by Notre Dame, I obviously am claiming that there was racism involved. Yet another example of how Leahy has brought the level of intellectual discourse around here to an all time low.
Having not been privy to all the details that Ty was I have no idea whether there was institutional racism involved or not, that doesn’t mean I can’t still think he was treated unfairly. Get a grip Leahy.
September 26th, 2005 at 4:11:06 pm
David,
My post specifically referenced unfounded allegations of racism by Willing-Saunders. I assumed most would understand that was the main reason why I found it distasteful. That you chose to ignore it was curious to me. It’s obvious that I mistook your silence for assent. For that, I apologize.
I think we can both agree that for Ty to allege racism in the lame way that he did in the interview is disgraceful. If he believes he is the victim of racism, come out and prove it. Ty chose to insinuate that his firing racially motivated without any evidence, in the meantime besmirching the reputation of an entire University.
September 26th, 2005 at 6:21:01 pm
Yes, well Notre Dame has done plenty to besmirch its own reputation
September 26th, 2005 at 6:31:51 pm
Thanks for responding to my argument, you f*cking idiot.
I can’t believe you’re going down in flames over Ty Willingham. Surely there’s a more worthy coach to ruin your sports fan reputation over?
How about Phil Jackson- you could argue that he’s better than Red Auerbach.
Hell, if you feel the need to defend a middling black coach, take up the banner for Tony Dungy. Wasn’t he discarded unfairly by Tampa Bay? Isn’t that Glazer guy racist?
I don’t expect to admit he’s not a good coach. You’re a fan. But you could perhaps address the point that he was out of line to insinuate institutional racism after going 21-15, 13-15 in his last 28…
September 26th, 2005 at 8:17:17 pm
I’m not going to comment about the racism comment becuase I haven’t heard or read anything about it. Period.
Your need to read into other peoples statements what you want to see and not what they write is getting old and tired Leahy. You wonder why people consider what you say to be tripe? Thats a pretty good starter.