A quick trip to Wikipedia shows that there are actually both bars and nightclubs in Qatar that serve alcohol. They tend to be in high end hotels. Which stands to reason given that’s where the westerners are that drink the stuff. Consuming alcohol in public and public drunkenness are illegal it is true, but I would check your local ordinances before passing judgment on that point.
Like OMG, facts getting in the way of random paranoia…
Qatar is actually a pretty Western friendly country is it not? Also, Sharia law in the US? Really? You honestly see prohibition coming back? Women being forced to wear burqas? Stonings? I’ve seen a lot of things that give me pause for concern in the direction our country is taking, but given that one of them is rampant Islamophobia, the idea of Sharia law becoming standard in America is not one of them.
“What I have said is that Islam demands that all non-Muslims be converted, subjigated or killed.”
Oh I see, so only ACTIVE Muslims are out to kill us. I guess I need to remind all my Muslim friends about that, since I’m still alive they have been doing a piss poor job. I’m sure they will appreciate it when I clear up their religious beliefs for them. They will definitely consider the source authoritative, I mean who could have a better grasp of their religious beliefs than some random jerk from the internet named gahrie?
Well no one would no more about assholes than you Andrew. I’m curious how believing that not all muslims are out to get us is such a horribly innacurate view to hold, but then apparently my muslim friends are bad muslims because they haven’t demanded that I convert or die yet. Like I just told gahrie, i’ll be sure to give them a good talking to.
I love David’s appeal to authority. It’s a twist off of the old, “But some of my best friends are black!” Only in this case, David is assuming that all religious Muslims must be reasonable like his Americanized middle-class Muslim friends.
I know the Muslims that agree with chagrin on this, and I know Muslims that dispute it like we were declaring Holy War on them. The debate is not about what our experiences are personally with Muslims, the debate is about what the Quran says about non-Muslims and how that translates into orthodox Islam preaching and attitudes. And while gahrie’s point is a gross overgeneralization (“What I have said is that Islam demands that all non-Muslims be converted, subjigated or killed”), there are plenty of scholars — Muslim and non-Muslim — who would agree that there is quite a bit of truth in that statement. The better debate is, how do we, as Western non-Muslims, deal with that? And perhaps even more importantly, how do our Western Muslims deal with that?
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