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	<title>Comments on: Twitter: Pre-pre-preseason 2010 rankings, &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://www.brendanloy.com/lrt/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/facebook.png'/> Brendan Loy</title>
		<link>http://www.brendanloy.com/lrt/2009/12/twitter-pre-pre-preseason-2010-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-3230</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Boise states beats TCU, and yet they aren&#039;t in the preseason Top 11 next year (which would make them closer to #2 than to #22), I will eat my arm.

If they lose to TCU, I suppose it&#039;s &lt;b&gt;possible&lt;/b&gt; they could miss out on the preseason Top 11, but I really, &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; don&#039;t think so. Remember, they were preseason #14 this year. And next year, they return EVERY STARTER from, at worst, a 13-1 team that&#039;ll finish somewhere in the #7-9 range with a loss to TCU. (They&#039;re #6 now, with a solid wall of 2- and 3-loss teams behind &#039;em. They might get passed by a couple of the 2-loss teams, like the Oregon-Ohio State winner -- at least if it&#039;s Ohio State, ahem -- and the Georgia Tech-Iowa winner, and maybe Penn State if it beats LSU, but I can&#039;t see them finishing behind any three-loss teams.) 

So, we&#039;re talking about a Top 10 team that returns EVERYBODY, while a bunch of the other Top 10 teams will lose key players... and you&#039;re saying the pollsters will rank them closer to #22 than to #2 (i.e., lower than #12)?? How do you figure?? If you think the pollsters are so horribly biased against the mid-majors that they&#039;ll saddle this Boise team, despite their transparently obvious worthiness for a Top 10 if not Top 5 ranking, with another mid-teens preseason ranking, just because they play in the WAC, I don&#039;t think you&#039;ve been paying attention to how the pollsters have treated the mid-majors this whole season. It&#039;s not the early 2000s anymore.

Granted, a similarly situated BCS-conference team would be in serious consideration for the #1 preseason ranking; Boise will not be. #2 is almost certainly too high, as well, IMHO. That&#039;s where the bias comes in -- they&#039;ll be a few spots lower because they&#039;re Boise State. But Top 5 is absolutely realistic with a win over TCU, and Top 10 is pretty much guaranteed regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Boise states beats TCU, and yet they aren&#8217;t in the preseason Top 11 next year (which would make them closer to #2 than to #22), I will eat my arm.</p>
<p>If they lose to TCU, I suppose it&#8217;s <b>possible</b> they could miss out on the preseason Top 11, but I really, <em>really</em> don&#8217;t think so. Remember, they were preseason #14 this year. And next year, they return EVERY STARTER from, at worst, a 13-1 team that&#8217;ll finish somewhere in the #7-9 range with a loss to TCU. (They&#8217;re #6 now, with a solid wall of 2- and 3-loss teams behind &#8216;em. They might get passed by a couple of the 2-loss teams, like the Oregon-Ohio State winner &#8212; at least if it&#8217;s Ohio State, ahem &#8212; and the Georgia Tech-Iowa winner, and maybe Penn State if it beats LSU, but I can&#8217;t see them finishing behind any three-loss teams.) </p>
<p>So, we&#8217;re talking about a Top 10 team that returns EVERYBODY, while a bunch of the other Top 10 teams will lose key players&#8230; and you&#8217;re saying the pollsters will rank them closer to #22 than to #2 (i.e., lower than #12)?? How do you figure?? If you think the pollsters are so horribly biased against the mid-majors that they&#8217;ll saddle this Boise team, despite their transparently obvious worthiness for a Top 10 if not Top 5 ranking, with another mid-teens preseason ranking, just because they play in the WAC, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve been paying attention to how the pollsters have treated the mid-majors this whole season. It&#8217;s not the early 2000s anymore.</p>
<p>Granted, a similarly situated BCS-conference team would be in serious consideration for the #1 preseason ranking; Boise will not be. #2 is almost certainly too high, as well, IMHO. That&#8217;s where the bias comes in &#8212; they&#8217;ll be a few spots lower because they&#8217;re Boise State. But Top 5 is absolutely realistic with a win over TCU, and Top 10 is pretty much guaranteed regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://www.brendanloy.com/lrt/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/google.png'/> trooperbari</title>
		<link>http://www.brendanloy.com/lrt/2009/12/twitter-pre-pre-preseason-2010-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-3224</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may just be a hunch, but I have a feeling Boise will be closer to preseason No. 22 than No. 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may just be a hunch, but I have a feeling Boise will be closer to preseason No. 22 than No. 2.</p>
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		<title>By: ceiliazul</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceiliazul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ducks fans must feel they&#039;ve just lived down a bad dream: staring at a Bronco behind all dang year... and look!  They&#039;re staring at the same derriere next year.  

Voters may be more open-minded, but I don&#039;t see &quot;smarter&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ducks fans must feel they&#8217;ve just lived down a bad dream: staring at a Bronco behind all dang year&#8230; and look!  They&#8217;re staring at the same derriere next year.  </p>
<p>Voters may be more open-minded, but I don&#8217;t see &#8220;smarter&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.brendanloy.com/lrt/2009/12/twitter-pre-pre-preseason-2010-rankings/comment-page-1/#comment-3221</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s next, 2011 Bracketology before the 2010 Final Four? *shakes head*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s next, 2011 Bracketology before the 2010 Final Four? *shakes head*</p>
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